We have a few new notices published over the last week:
First South West Ltd First Kernow / Buses of Somerset
BoS actually have quite a few changes coming up for 27th November, but only the 22 crosses over into Devon:
| Licence | Route | Start Point | End Point | Effective | Notes |
| PH0004983.486 | 22 22A X22 | Taunton, Castle Way | Rockwell Green/ Tonedale/ Tiverton | 27-Nov-2023 | Minor changes to timetable |
| PH0004983.179 | U2 | Camborne Bus Station | Falmouth, The Moor | 30-Oct-2023 | Monday to Sunday "Monday to Sunday. The 0730 Schooldays journey will depart Falmouth at 0720. In Redruth this journey will operate via the A393, Sandy Lane, St Day Rd, Wesley St, Station Rd, Station Hill, Penryn Street, Foundry Row, Tolgus Hill, Tolgus Vean, A3047, Barncoose Terrace, no longer serving Clinton Road. This is to ensure the bus arrives in time for school children. PM Journey from Redruth School The 1455 Schooldays will run via the A3047, Tolgus Vean looping around the roundabout then back along Tolgus Vean and the A3047. Then via Blowinghouse Hill, West End, Penryn Street, Station Hill, Station Road, Higher Fore St, St Day Rd, Sandy Lane then along the A393 to Falmouth no longer serving Clinton Road." |
Stagecoach Devon Ltd
When these came through this week I did wonder what was going on, but its looks likes they are tidying up a bit and closing down a few ‘event’ registrations that have been sitting there. No changes to the current Park & Ride services
| Licence | Route | Start Point | End Point | Effective | Notes |
| PH1020951.271 | 100 | Plymouth Royal Parade | Milehouse & George P&R | 10-Dec-2023 | To cancel these trips in connection with MTV crashes. Registered back in 2016 |
| PH1020951.272 | 200 | Plymouth City Centre Royal Parade | Marsh Mills Coypool P&R | 10-Dec-2023 | To cancel trips in connection with MTV crashes. Registered back in 2016 |
| PH1020951.363 | 200 (PR2, PR1) | Coypool & George P&R | Plymouth Royal Parade | 10-Dec-2023 | To Cancel services in connection with Sail GP. Registered July 2022 |
There is another temporary diversion coming up as tweeted by Plymouth Citybus
Revised timetables for #PCB8 #PCB9 #PCB20 #PCB20A reflecting the expected timings for the diversion routes for the next 3 weeks from 6th November are now available on our website timetables pages. Please note also: Some early 8 services have changed to 9's. pic.twitter.com/2uSmzJEiG7
— Plymouth Citybus (@plymouthbus) November 4, 2023
well, we're now well into November, and alas, the buses to replace the old E200s are nowhere to be seen. The news of BSIP to improve services has so far only seen a 30/31 introduced and well, to be honest, it's all looking a bit doom and gloom for GSW while GSC and GNW seem to be having the time of their lives!
ReplyDeletehave to agree with that! i mean the ex EYMS e200's and all of the old scanias / 06/56 e400's are knackered.
DeleteI cannot quite believe the citybus seem to think its okay carrying on like this. It's a shambles really
DeleteSome of the buses look a wreck not only externally but also internally. There used to be a time where seats would be retrimed and buses generally looked a lot better. Sadly this doesnt seem to be the case now. Thats ok though because the moneys been spent elsewhere on new panes of branded glass and a sign above the office on Milehouse Road.it was slightly dissapointing to see given the dire condition of the ex Brighton omnidecker on the 34 which I was travelling on! Money being spent. There never used to be a sign above the door so thats questionable and the 6 panes replaced had Go South West on before they was replaced! Seems like a waste to me
DeleteYeah and the 30/31 is run by Stagecoach so literally nothing for GSW
DeleteThe less than ambitious BSIP schemes for Plymouth is hardly the fault of GSW. I believe there are other service improvements coming up on the new year but it remains to be seen how much of a difference they are. With both PCB and SC still cancelling services daily due to lack of drivers neither will be in a rush to take on new services anyway.
DeleteWhen you say service improvements Graham - what do you mean?
DeletePlymouth City Council has a bid in for ZEBRA 2 funding (Zero Emission Bus Region Area, round 2). The awards will be announced in March so presumably PCB will hold off ordering anything until it knows whether the bid has been successful. Any order against an award must be made by January 2025. Cornwall, Devon and Torbay also have ZEBRA 2 bid in.
DeleteGraham, i would hardly say the BSIP for Plymouth was "less than ambitious" - having a fleet of buses with an average age of 7 years, is actually very good, on top of multi-service multi-stop supports across main corridors of the city.
DeleteOut of curiosity - what is the average age of the PCB fleet - please don't include the GCB fleet - they do not count.
Are the current MAN Gasbuses not considering zero emissions? I hate those buses with a passion though, I’d far rather take an E200
DeleteHistory is clearly repeating itself, pcb are getting shafted just like first devon & Cornwall, won't be long before they shut down the plymouth operation
ReplyDeleteI have been thinking that for past 12 months or so. It is First in Plymouth all over again. GA clearly aren't interested in Plymouth ops but probably can't find anyone willing to buy it! First at least managed to sell to Stagecoach, whom would buy PCB though! Could be a slow and painful death
DeleteWell it’s a lack of drivers and people not using the bus still a good service compared to stagecoach where in saltash it’s completely awful especially evening s 2a gone and number 2 every hour if it turns up they send about 4 buses through Plym stock in the evening s every hour though as it’s so busy noootttt all they seemed to be interested in is Plym stock if anything I think stagecoach will be the next to go in Plymouth
Deleteanyone see any poppies on the front of PCB/GCB buses? no me neither...
ReplyDeleteAt least Stagecoach had the respect to add them. Saw one on an E200 in new livery the other.
DeleteSince when has it been compulsory to add poppies to buses? Some operators do but many dont. Hardly see any poppies on any vehicles these days. Its pretty rare to see anyone actually wearing a poppy. I haven't actually seen them on sale anywhere. I certainly dont see the lack of poppies as a lack of respect
DeleteGlad to see it not me who thought there was a lack of poppy available.
DeleteOn another note i notice the ex southampton citybus plaxton dart that was parked in honicknowle lane has turned up in milehouse
Keep an eye out on the marketing material for Citybus - colour changes, different fonts, etc - it's possible it's just a Christmas thing, but the changes could be coming.
ReplyDeleteStagecoach Christmas services announced, as it is Sunday... the last buses on routes normally operated on Sunday will depart Royal Parade around 5.30pm in general on Christmas eve and NYE. Servuce 2 to Saltash last departure 6.00pm and service 1 to Tavistock at 6.30pm
DeleteWhat's fleet no 169 and 171 - withdrawn as per Graham's fleet update?
ReplyDeleteEx GAL E200s not required
Deleteisn't one of them SN57 DWL? the one thats smashed? surely one of them could have been used?
DeleteNot required? Makes me laugh really, surely any bus we can get is required?
Delete*Whether how useful or not it is, is a different story but we've already got 2x ex GAL E200's out running, and another one being the Chatterbus (whatever the hell that is!) , so why not have more? Our fleet is already shocking as is.
DeleteDetails of Plymouth BSIP+ & enhanced East West corridor proposals in new Buses mag just out I see
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