27 July 2023

Plymouth Citybus Fleet Update: Enviro 400s dual doored

The fleet updates continue with the following Enviro 400’s now in Reserve

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477 LX56EUB
478 LX06FKO
488 LX56ETV
489 LX56EUA

As you can see from the photos below these remained un-rebuilt dual door buses. Plymouth Citybus 477 LX56EUB Beauty and the Enviro

478 © Nick Rice (cc) LX56EUA

13 comments:

  1. That's a lot of buses in reserve but then to be honest citybus will probs end up using them non-stop soon enough....

    Are there any incoming buses to replace these? Surely we don't have enough in the fleet as is, that's not even including these 4.

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  2. Update on the later batch-4013 now in tramlines, was on the gravel yesterday.

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    1. 4013 also now includes the GoAhead logo as part of the standard livery alongside PCB.

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    2. Would be interesting*

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    3. The other day on the way to work I was on the 4013 on the 51 route and it sounded horrendous and the bus was barely accelerating. In addition i was then also on the 4014 the next day again on the 51 route and again, sounding horrific and barely any acceleration. It then got to the point at Laira bridge by the train station the bus just wouldn’t move. It was throttling like mad and the driver had to keep turning on and off his engine. The bus ended up moving after 7 minutes of on/off action. 4013 and 4014 are the only two that seem to have issues out of this batch from GAL. They should be taken off the roads and kept in reserve

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    4. I must admit while most of these buses are not too bad, there have been a few which have struggled to get up keswick Crescent where I live - possibly these two as they are regular performers on the 50/51s.

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    5. Amen - I was on 4013 I think a few weeks ago on the 34 going down Outland Road and it was the worst horrendous sounding bus ever.

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    6. Citybus fleet in general is horrendous in my opinion. Even on so called flagship routes like the 42's some old rubbish is creeping in. In general the buses on Stagecoach 1/1a on the Derriford to city corridor are much better and look more looked after IMO

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  3. Yesterday 9th December, 4005 was on the 43. I wasn’t on this bus but was on the 475 on the 50 behind. I love the 471-475s as they have such nice sounds and they aren’t actually that bad condition. But back to 4005, the bus was supposed to be 20 minutes ahead of the 50, but when I missed the 43 I waited for the 50. It was at the square that I realised the 43 was still there as we arrived. It then took off sounding horrendous. And it was then as it took off at Evelyn street N-Bound only a few seconds after the bus left the bus stop that it completely failed. The bus, as I could hear from the 50 sounded horrendous. These 4001-4014 are in terrible condition. I will admit some of them are alright, I find 4008, 4011 and 4012 to be alright. The driver of the 43 just had to put his hazards on and wait. I was in the shop for 10 minutes and came out and the poor driver was getting beeped at by cars. Not only did this delay a service but also obstructed other traffic, and it’s no on the driver but probably either on the 16 year old bus or the maintence. I mean the 6004-6018 busses I find to be smoother than the ex go ahead lx57s. But yes just wanted to share what happened today and my thoughts on the range of enviros in that number range. Thanks guys.

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    1. I must admit I am not a massive fan of the 4000's. Although they look a lot tidier than the 6000's Scanias I prefer a Scania any day. They look rough but have much better seats and most (not all!) seem to be able to cope with hills on the 50/51 a lot better. I guess with any batch there are some good buses and some bad ones!

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  4. They may look Ok but mechanically they are shot. 15 years in London is equivalent to 20 outside. I was surprised PCB took them but maybe they had no choice. ADL E400s are less well engineered than Volvos of a similar age, which is probably why Go ahead London released these.

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  5. Are these reserved buses still about at Milehouse? Not seen any of them out in ages so I’m gonna say not?

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  6. Do we have any single door buses in “reserve”?

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