The weekly look at service changes across Devon & Cornwall.
There are no timetable changes due this coming week bet there have been some new notices published over the last week
As usual please click through on the Licence number for more details and full route histories on the PTBS web site. Links to Traveline and other timetables and maps are provided below where possible, but always check with the operators own web site for up to date information before you travel!
New notices Published this last week
All the new notices this last week are updates from Plymouth Citybus for changes already announced for 23rd February. One route (44) has had updates!
| Licence | Route | Start Point | End Point | Effective | Notes | OPERATOR |
| PH0000135.146 | 27 [ABS] | City Centre | Crownhill | 23-Feb-2020 | 27A
Withdrawn from Mainstone & Estover. 27S introduced for Estover & Eggbuckland schools Route & Timetable revised 27 27A 27B 27S Traveline timetable & Maps |
PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD |
| PH0000135.005 | 28[A] | City Centre | Estover, Asda | 23-Feb-2020 | Withdraw servic from Estover & revise timetable | PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD |
| PH0000135.053 | 34 | City Centre | Estover | 23-Feb-2020 | Withdraw some Estover journeys, afternoon & evening timing changes. Errors also corrected. | PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD |
| PH0000135.149 | 42[C] | City Centre | Woolwell | 23-Feb-2020 | Revise
route from Mainstone to Asda. Extra journey added 18.06 Asda - RP school
holidays. Corrections to bus stop at Derriford Roundabout inbound on
42C. |
PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD |
| PH0000135.010 | 44[A] | City Centre | Whitleigh | 23-Feb-2020 | Extend
44A to Keyham & St Levan Road Revise timetable for reliability |
PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD |
| PH0000135.010 | 44[A] | City Centre | Whitleigh | 23-Feb-2020 | Additional journeys on service 44A to fill gaps identified by Plymouth City Council | PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD |
More route changes at Citybus. Why can't they just leave things alone? As soon as people get used to the routes and times they go and change them again.
ReplyDeleteI have not come across a company like it...it's crazy. only bus op that comes close for changes is Go South Coast ... same company strangely
Deletecompared with a few years ago there is nothing like the amount of route changes going on. Back then it was stupid - but the main network has been fairly settled over this last year. Most of these February changes are small timetable changes -and the big change due to road works closing one of the main roads in Plymouth.
DeleteChanges in services allow companies to adapt to the customer base and it is good in my opinion. Look at when the council ran the service, service changes were few and far between but as a result the customer base was not wholly ideal. Since Go-Ahead took over changes have been more frequent and fluctuate with demand. I feel this is beneficial to the customer as it allows for a service that could otherwise not be there.
DeleteWhitleigh/Holly Park is a good example. This area was not profitable but they made changes to add more connections increase service time before they eventually went the other way and withdrew the service in total. Only after the council got involved did a service return. If citybus didn't improve the service and let it spiral into nothing the council may not have introduced as much funding, especially this day in age when funding is scarce as it is, maybe Holly Park wouldn't even see an hourly service? Yes the service there is far from ideal but that's what happens when an area produces no money.
Im wondering what estover has done to upset pcb to have all these routes cut?
ReplyDeleteSome of these changes are due to the upcoming closure of Forder Valley Road.
ReplyDeleteBecause they're now reducing commitments in Plymouth to get drivers to Cornwall.
ReplyDeleteFar more will surface in the next couple of weeks as other actions of theirs come under intense scrutiny within Cornwall.
I may be wrong but I dont see anything in this round of changes that reduces the need for drivers in Plymouth? We will though have to wait and see what happens over the coming months!
DeleteThey haven't done anything and they are not cuts. The main issue is massive roadworks scheme about to start which will close one of the main roads meaning Mainstone cannot be served by the 28A as it is at the moment. This means that the 42s are being extended to cover Mainstone coming via The George end and through Estover Industrial Estates who as a result are seeing many more buses than they do now. This area previously only being served by peak time extensions of the 34. The extension of the 42s needing more buses hence the loss of the PR3.
ReplyDeleteWhy couldn't Citybus just divert a route along Delamere Road up through Leigham to Mainstone like the old 46/47 city circular (which should never of been scrapped) back in the day??. Or divert the 50/51 through Mainstone??. Would be a lot easier and less hassle!, AND they could of still kept the PR 3 service???.
ReplyDeletesending the 28A that way, wouldn't have made any sense, as the route would have had to double back on itself, or be rerouted a different way to what the 28 goes. The 50 could have been used, however, i like the idea of the 42 covering the route between the George P&R and Estover / Mainstone. There's a lot of people who may use the bus more to get down towards Estover business park / Wrigleys.
DeleteI think with the roadworks extending the 50/51 and sending buses via leigham will result in buses getting trapped in traffic, not ideal for reliability!
DeleteI personally think Citybus has been smart about these changes making it suit the general users not the odd few, something a company should strive to do! It allows a direct link from George P&R to Mutley; it brings more buses through the industrial estate; further connections for those who are in Seaton and allows those in Mainstone better connections through Derriford and Crownhill! Ok the PR3 service has been scrapped but to be honest this service was not the most utilised and by doing this might bring more people to use that segment of route (especially Seaton Ship to P&R, something I always thought the PR3 should have already done.)
To clarify, as I haven’t seen it said anywhere, will the newly routed 42 serve Asda as well as Mainstone? Seems like it would be ridiculous not to!
ReplyDeleteyes!
DeleteTo anyone who needs the route map... http://nationaljourneyplanner.travelinesw.com/swe/ROP/EFA02__00002a9a.pdf
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