Cornwall Transit 007
Still plenty to report, even though its only been a week since the last one!
Previous Chapters: CT001, CT002, CT003, CT004, CT005, CT006, CT006A
First Kernow
Timetables
There has been a fair quite a few short notice changes registered on VOSA:
SERVICE 21 (Newquay - St Austell)
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PH0004983/500 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newquay Bus Station and St. Austell Bus Station given service number 21 effective from 29-Mar-2015. To amend Timetable.
The 21 will be changing from Sunday 29 March. The changes to the current timetable are the adding of two extra journeys from Monday to Saturday as follows:-
06:26 from Fraddon Services to Newquay Manor Road Bus Station (arrives 06:57) 23:03 from Newquay Manor Road Bus Station to Fraddon Services (arrives 23:31)
SERVICE 87 (Newquay - Perranporth - Truro)
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PH0004983/501 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newquay Bus Station and Truro Bus Station given service number 87 effective from 29-Mar-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
A revised timetable is being introduced with all journeys after 08:45 serving Perran Sands Holiday Park. An additional journey will run from Monday to Friday only. This departs Goonhavern (opposite New Inn) at 06:28 to Truro Bus Station (arrives 07:26).
SERVICE 527 (Newquay - St Austell)
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PH0004983/511 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between St Austell and Newquay given service number 527 effective from 29-Mar-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
All journeys on this service will have a change to their routing (both directions) and between Lane Cross Roads and Newquay Town Centre will run via Trencreek, Trerice Drive and the Chester Road Shops. All southbound journeys will consequentially depart from Newquay Manor Road Bus Station two minutes earlier at 55 minutes past the hour
SERVICE 558 (Newquay Local Service)
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PH0004983/512 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newquay Bus Station and Newquay Bus Station given service number 558 effective from 29-Mar-2015. To amend Timetable.
All journeys will operate five minutes later throughout
Two new services have been registered, one of which has already been changed!
SERVICE 556/557 (Newquay - Padstow)
- PH0004983/518 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT Registration Accepted by SN Starting Point: Newquay Bus Station Finish Point: Padstow Bus Terminus Via: St Mawgan, Watergate Bay Service Number: 556 Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride Effective Date: 18-MAR-2015 Other Details: Daily service
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PH0004983/518 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newquay Bus Station and Padstow Bus Terminus given service number 556/557 effective from 29-Mar-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
This is a change to the timetable and the route numbers - from this date all trips will be numbered as 556
NEW SERVICE 59 (Newquay - Hendra - Quntrell Downs)
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PH0004983/519 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT Registration Accepted by SN Starting Point: Newquay Bus Station Finish Point: Newquay Bus Station Via: Hendra Holiday Park Service Number: 59 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 30-MAR-2015 Other Details: Monday to Saturday except public holidays, hourly.
We have a new service starting from Monday 30 March. The 59 is an hourly Monday to Saturday (except public holidays) circular service between Newquay, Hendra Holiday Park, Quintrell Downs, Hendra Holiday Park and Newquay
Not seen this one on VOSA yet:
SERVICE 93 (Newquay - Truro)
The 18:50 departure from Newquay Manor Road Bus Station will now depart 20 minutes earlier at 18:30 and will now arrive into Truro Bus Station at 19:39.
Most of these are so new they are not on Traveline yet. Maps will be updated where necessary on my PTBS site see links below
Fleet News
As well as the ex Western Greyhound stock, First have been drafting in extra buses from elsewhere within First Group:
62194 X668ADK Volvo B10BLE has arrived from First Bath
41490 LT02ZFB Dennis Dart Marshall had arrived from Bristol
53040 VU02PKX Optare Solo is coming down from First Worcester
85 SK52OKF and 83 SK52OKD Lothian Dennis Darts are in Cornwall with a third still on the way.
These are just a few of the buses that have arrived. I hope to catch up a bit with these next time!
Plymouth Citybus
Timetables
Quite a lot going on from the 12th April with several routes changing numbers:
- PH0000135/160 - PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA Variation Accepted: Operating between Callington, New Road and Tavistock Bus Station given service number 79/79A effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Route and Timetable
Route 79: Loses northern part of Callington town service (see above), and works through into Plymouth via Saltash as service 12.
- PH0000135/166 - PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA Variation Accepted: Operating between Plymouth, Royal Parade and Liskeard, Ballas Street given service number 11 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
renumbered Service 11 from Current service 593. Half hourly service Plymouth to Liskeard. Alternate journeys continue to Looe & Polperro as service 73. In Saltash both service 11 and 12 will serve Fore Street and Callington Road, providing a 15 minute service on Callington Road
Timetable 11 PDF
- PH0000135/161 - PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA Variation Accepted: Operating between Launceston, Westgate Street and Bude, The Strand given service number 12 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.
- PH0000135/162 - PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA Variation Accepted: Operating between Plymouth, Royal Parade and Launceston, Westgate Street given service number 12 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Route and Timetable
Renumbered 12 from Current service 576 Half hourly Plymouth to Callington, hourly Plymouth onto Launceston, and roughly 2 hourly onto Bude. Most journeys ending in Callington work through onto services 79/79A. No longer serves St Dominick or Downgate, see service 78. In Saltash both service 11 and 12 will serve Fore Street and Callington Road, providing a 15 minute service on Callington Road.
- PH0000135/164 - PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA Variation Accepted: Operating between Plymouth, Royal Parade and West Looe given service number 72 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
Service 72 renumbered from Current service 572
Operates via Devonport to provide a Saltash to Devonport link. In Saltash, serves North Road and New Road, not Callington Road and Grenfell Avenue. Inbound services through St Germans follow the B3249 to the A38 at Heskyn Mill, left onto A38,around Trerulefoot roundabout. No longer serves Hannafore and Pelynt (see service 73), now serves Camping Caradon. Some services operate via Trerulefoot instead of St Germans to enable double decks to be used if required.
- PH0000135/163 - PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD,MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA Variation Accepted: Operating between Liskeard, Barras Street and Polperro, Crumplehorn given service number 73 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Route and Timetable
Renumbered Service 73 from Current 573 Now serves Hannafore and Pelynt. Most journeys continue from Liskeard to Plymouth via Saltash as service 11.
- PH0000135/165 - PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA Variation Accepted: Operating between Liskeard, Barras Street and Callington, New Road given service number 74 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.
Current 574 renumbered 74: Some frequencies reduced to every two hours to improve reliability and provide resource for service 78
- PH0000135/170 - PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA Registration Accepted Starting Point: ST DOMINICK SCHOOL Finish Point: STOKE, CLIMSLAND Via: Service Number: 78 Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride Effective Date: 12-APR-2015 Other Details: MONDAYS TO SUNDAYS EXCEPT BANK HOLIDAYS
Service 78 (NEW SERVICE) New service linking Stoke Climsland, Downgate and St Dominick to Callington, taking in part of the Callington town service form 79/79A.
Timetable pdf
Eastwood, Royal Buses
Timetables
- PH1086607/14 NICHOLAS COLIN EASTWOOD T/A Royal Buses, VICTORY HEIGHTS, THE BURROWS , ST. IVES TR26 1GD Operating between St Ives, Royal Square and Polmanter given service number 55 effective from 01Apr2015. To amend Timetable.
New timetable from the 1st April PDF (current timetable from web site)
OTS Minibus
Timetables
A couple of new routes start on the 6th April:
- PH1093399/10 OFFICE & TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD T/A OTS MINIBUS & COACH HIRE, 50 FORE STREET, CONSTANTINE , FALMOUTH TR11 5AB From: Falmouth, The Moor To: Falmouth, The Moor Via: Church Corner, Falmouth Sea Front Name or No: 366/366A Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 06Apr-2015 Other Details: Monday to Saturday every 20 minutes
- PH1093399/11 OFFICE & TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD T/A OTS MINIBUS & COACH HIRE, 50 FORE STREET, CONSTANTINE , FALMOUTH TR11 5AB From: Falmouth Moor To: Falmouth Moor Via: The Dell, Pendennis Point Name or No: 367 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 07Apr-2015 Other Details: Monday to Friday hourly.
These routes replace the Falmouth Shuttle service. VOSA Cancellation:
- PH1093399/3 OFFICE & TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD T/A OTS MINIBUS & COACH HIRE, 50 FORE STREET, CONSTANTINE , FALMOUTH TR11 5AB Operating between Falmouth, Quarry Car Park and Falmouth, Quarry Car Park given service number Falmouth Shuttle Bus effective from 05Apr2015.
Summercourt Ltd Travel Cornwall
Timetables – another batch of short notice change
23rd March
- PH1011427/78 - SUMMERCOURT TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL CORNWALL, THE OLD COACH GARAGE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Launceston Tesco and Delabole, The Smugglers given service number 410 effective from 23-Mar-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
- PH1011427/55 - SUMMERCOURT TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL CORNWALL, THE OLD COACH GARAGE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Truro, bottom of Lemon Street and Truro, bottom of Lemon Street given service number 494/495 effective from 19-Mar-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
- PH1011427/57 - SUMMERCOURT TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL CORNWALL, THE OLD COACH GARAGE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Pedna Carne and Truro given service number 497 effective from 23-Mar-2015. To amend Route and Timetable
Plymothian Bus Services Pages
Full more detailed route histories available:
- 11 Plymouth Citybus
- 12 Plymouth Citybus
- 21 First Kernow
- 55 Royal Buses
- 59 First Kernow
- 72 Plymouth Citybus
- 73 Plymouth Citybus
- 79 Plymouth Citybus
- 87 First Kernow
- 91 First Kernow
- 92 First Kernow
- 93 First Kernow
- 366 366A OTS
- 367 OTS
- 410 Travel Cornwall
- 495 Travel Cornwall
- 497 Travel Cornwall
- 527 First Kernow
- 556 First Kernow
- 558 First Kernow
- 572 Plymouth Citybus
- 573 Plymouth Citybus
- 576 Plymouth Citybus
- 593 Plymouth Citybus
- Falmouth Shuttle
Bizarrely the timetables in all the bus shelters have been replaced with the 12th April changes already and the current service timetables removed. The timetable booklets for the revised and new services are also available in the Citybus shop on Royal Parade but the booklets for services 5, 5A, 29, 29A etc have been removed from view. Was asked at St Budeaux Square today if the service 12 had been yet. When I told them this service didn't start for another 11 days and they should catch the 576 they told me they had just watched that bus go as they didn't know what it was - there was no timetable for it at the bus stop!
ReplyDeleteAh that's Citybus for you I am afraid... Cornish Customers will need to get used to this.
ReplyDeleteI see First have reduced their fares again... £1 single anywhere from Manadon Roundabout to City it seems according to bus stop signs...that is brilliant value and so much cheaper than the competition. Only 50p for kids.
Unfortunately Citybus are damned whichever way they go. Start replacing the timetables early and it's wrong, if they had waited till the 12th to start changing that would have been wrong. If they had a mix of pre 12 and post 12 out there that would be wrong. Perhaps anonymous 12:03 and 23:42 could suggest a way that they themselves would change hundreds of timetable information sheets in one night. I'm sure Citybus would be delighted to hear. Criticize by all means but tell us how you would be perfect? This is a common occurrence among operators at major timetable changes.
ReplyDeletethere is only one person who has to do over 2000 bus stops! so they have to be put up early in time for the changes
ReplyDeletethey may be charging a quid single, but r they actually making a profit? no. last year they made a 3 million pound loss! no wonder first kernow wants to be separate!
Still rather pay quid to first than £3 return citybus want personally. Leave first to work out their profit margins. If citybus drop their farres to it will mess up profit on 40/41/42/44 all at same time of they don't they lose customers..same result. Good move by First I would say as before citybus had 90% plus pf customer on this section.. First have nothing to lose and can only gain
DeleteFirst Plymouth, Cornwall (and Somerset) are the same company, therefore post the combined results at Companies House. I don't dispute there are separate management accounts for the businesses and that the parts on their own would show a profit, but the limited company encompasses them all, so you have the combined income against the combined operating costs joined together.
DeleteDon't forget Somerset have been expanding their service offerings against Webberbus, and this requires vehicles and staff, there are some upfront costs to met there, as in Plymouth & Cornwall with the recent expansion, so to get into a loss during this period would be entirely consistent with expansion - longer term, it will make some money.
Evidently Alex Carter and his team are taking and are being allowed to take, the long term view which is wise given the work they've done and have still to do. In that context short term losses can be tolerated, FDC as a entire business has been loss making since 2003, when the decline set in. The other companies' profits can offset it, so it's not a problem for them to make the loss.
It is only in the past few years that they've taken a long hard look at what is there and sought to do something with it.
Go Ahead in this period, running Plymouth Citybus have also expanded their services, which also requires vehicles and drivers. What is noteworthy is that Blue Flash has been revised following the first year of operations - that suggests targets were not met in the first year.
One person to do 2000 bus stops isn't uncommon in the industry, either......
As anon 09:38 says I would rather pay £1 single to First than £3 return to Citybus, I totally agree, my fare is half the price with First so I will pick First thank you, lots of other people in the area where I am have done the same and unless you have something loose upstairs or more money than sense I am sure anyone would do the same.
ReplyDeleteI agree First have played it clever here, by having fares at £1.50 - £1.80 return compared to the rivals £3 fare.. they may well make a loss but when they pinch customers off PCB and build up their own customer base on these corridors they can then look to increase fares and make profits.. by being so cheap they have the scope to increase fares by a fair way and still be seen as a bargain compared to the rather expensive opposition. IF PCB drop their fares to £1 people will get on what ever bus comes first which will still see First increase it's customer numbers / revenue whilst PCB will have less customers paying less money so lose out doublely, same as in Efford/Laira etc.
passengers numbers are actually back up to what it was before the 6 started, when first start making even more losses by charging a £1, citybus will still be there. we have the larger network in plymouth. its ok charging a £1 here or doing dayriders for £3 but look at the amount of routes first run in plymouth compared to citybus. people would rather pay more and have more routes to travel on. it's not all about price. cant wait till we get wifi on our 21/21a, then we will really kill off the 3! as if we aren't busy enough on that route already! more money to invest in the company. how many new buses have first bought in last 2 years? hmm 9. and they gone to cornwall!! citybus have had 20 new deckers, 2 new coaches, and another 10 new deckers in the summer. we might charge more, but we invest in the company, the fleet, and our passengers.
DeleteCompletely agree Citybus covers the whole city , so you're bound to pay more for a day rider.
ReplyDeleteFirst buses are a disgrace compared to Citybus buses, Citybus are always clean inside and out, first's look like they're on the way to the scrap yard, then you see passengers on and realise your mistake! In derriford the other day I was with about 20-25 passengers waiting to go to the city centre, there was a choice of a really old decker with steps sat there belching out clouds of smoke, or a smart blue flash, yes we all went for Citybus, first had a our 4-5 passengers on
From what I see daily passenger numbers are not what they were on the 8/9 if anything I would say the 6 carries slightly more..plus Citybus now only get £1.10 or whatever they now charge per fare in Efford/Laira, instead of the very pricey £3.20 they were getting before competition. First have lower overheads as well and without flashy new buses which no one cares about other than bus spotters to be honest (who needs wifi for a 10 min journey anyway) they will find it a lot easier to sustain the low fares...hence Citybus already creeping up. If First were losing on the 6 they would have pulled it by now..lets be fair First don't give things long historically instead they have extended the route and launched 7 day week operation... does not sound like a struggling route to me, unlike the Blue Flash which has had change after change to 'prop it up' over the past 18 months, and the 32 which has needed local funding for route extensions to make it a goer. I think you are perhaps believing the hype your superiors want you to somehow.
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