Cornwall Transit 004
Part 3 was back on the 3rd February 2015Slightly delayed this week but as usual we look back at the last couple of weeks on VOSA and ahead to any timetable changes due over the next couple of weeks.
Western Greyhound
VOSA
Western Greyhound have registered a lot of timetable changes for the end of March:- PH0006741/4 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between NEWQUAY Bus Station and PADSTOW Old Rail Station
given service number 556/557 effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Route and Timetable. - PH0006741/9 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between St Austell Station and Bodmin Morrisons given service number 527
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Route and Timetable. - PH0006741/11 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bodmin Parkway Station and Padstow Old Railway Station given service number 555
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Timetable. - PH0006741/21 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between TRURO and NEWQUAY given service number 585
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Route and Timetable. - PH0006741/35 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newquay Bus Station and St Austell Station given service number 523
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Route and Timetable. - PH0006741/37 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between St Agnes and St Ives Malakoff given service number 547
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Route and Timetable. - PH0006741/40 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between NEWQUAY BUS STATION and ST AUSTELL BUS STATION given service number 521/520
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Route and Timetable. - PH0006741/72 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between St Austell Station and Royal Cornwall Hospital Treliske given service number 522
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Route and Timetable. - PH0006741/76 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between Truro, Boscawen Street and St Mawes Car Park given service number 550
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Timetable. - PH0006741/107 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newquay Bus Station and Truro, Boscawen Street given service number 587
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Route and Timetable. - PH0006741/108 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wadebridge Bus Station and Truro Victoria Square given service number 594
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Timetable. - PH0006741/109 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newquay Bus Station and Truro given service number 597/594
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Timetable. - PH0006741/112 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between NEWQUAY BUS STATION and BODMIN (MOUNT FOLLY) given service number 593
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Route and Timetable. - PH0006741/113 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bodmin (Mount Folly) and Liskeard given service number 593
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
To amend Timetable. - PH0006741/117 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between ST IVES ( THE MALAKOFF ) and LANDS END
given service number 547
effective from 29-Mar-2015.
- PH0006741/123 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: St Austell Bus Station
Finish Point: Royal Cornwall Hospital Treliske
Via: St Austell, Truro, Probus
Service Number: 527
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 29-MAR-2015
Other Details: Daily service - PH0006741/124 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Truro, Victoria Square
Finish Point: Newquay Bus Station
Via: St Agnes, Perranporth
Service Number: 583
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 29-MAR-2015
Other Details: Daily service. - PH0006741/125 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Newquay Bus Station
Finish Point: Truro, Boscawen Street
Via: Rejerah, Zelah
Service Number: 590
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 02-MAY-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday hourly.
Timetables
There was a whole batch of cancellations on VOSA a while back:- PH0006741/65 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Okehampton West Street and Launceston given service number 510 effective from 21-Feb-2015. - PH0006741/95 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wadebridge Bus Station and Camelford given service number 510 effective from 21-Feb-2015. - PH0006741/96 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Camelford, Museum and Launceston, Westgate Street given service number 510 effective from 21-Feb-2015. - PH0006741/97 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Okehampton, West Street and Exeter Bus Station given service number 510/599 effective from 21-Feb-2015. - PH0006741/98 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Bude, Strand and Holsworthy, Church given service number 599 effective from 21-Feb-2015. - PH0006741/99 - WESTERN GREYHOUND LTD, WESTERN HOUSE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Holsworthy, Church/Library and Okehampton, West Street given service number 599 effective from 21-Feb-2015.
the 510 finally comes to an end this coming weekend when it is replaced * by Stagecoach (6 and 6A). Interestingly there is still no mention if this on the Western Greyhound web site (as at Sunday 15th).
Vehicles
Once a month Ross Newman publishes a very useful list of all the buses passing through Ensign, probably the largest bus dealership in the country. For January there was a large batch of Mercedes Varios purchased from Western Greyhound:- 554 WK53BNB
- 558 WK02SAT
- 560 WK02BUS
- 562 WK53EUT
- 565 WK04CUC
- 567 WK54BHN
- 569 WK54BHP
- 570 WK05CFD
- 573 WK05AOX
- 576 WK03BUS
- 577 WK04HSD
- 579 WK04KUO
- 580 WK04OTA
- 581 WK04CCC
- 983 WK11APO
- 984 WK11APU
- 985 WK11APV
- 986 WK11APX
- 208 NA52AWP
Photo credit: Nick Rice under Creative Commons Licence.
- FJ54ZDP
- FJ54ZDT
- LF52TKD
- LF52TKO
- LF52TKJ
- LF52TKC
287 W671TNV (Stagecoach 33384).
431 P936MKL is a Volvo Olympian Nothern Counties bus still in pink and carrying Velvet names.
Eastwood
VOSA:- PH1086607/14 - NICHOLAS COLIN EASTWOOD T/A Royal Buses, VICTORY HEIGHTS, THE BURROWS, ST. IVES, TR26 1GD Variation Accepted: Operating between St Ives, Royal Square and Polamnter given service number 55 effective from 01-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.
Travel Cornwall
One late service change registered on VOSA:- PH1011427/76 - SUMMERCOURT TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL CORNWALL, THE OLD COACH GARAGE, ST. AUSTELL STREET, SUMMERCOURT, NEWQUAY, TR8 5DR
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Veryan School and Summercourt Bus Garage given service number 450 effective from 09-Feb-2015. To amend Timetable. (minor time change on one journey)
New Timetable
OTS MINIBUS & COACH HIRE
VOSA
- 09 FEB 2015: PH1093399/3 - OFFICE & TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD T/A OTS MINIBUS & COACH HIRE, 50 FORE STREET, CONSTANTINE, FALMOUTH, TR11 5AB
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Falmouth, Quarry Car Park and Falmouth, Quarry Car Park
given service number Falmouth Shuttle Bus effective from 05-Apr-2015. - 09 FEB 2015: PH1093399/10 - OFFICE & TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD T/A OTS MINIBUS & COACH HIRE, 50 FORE STREET, CONSTANTINE, FALMOUTH, TR11 5AB
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Falmouth, The Moor
Finish Point: Falmouth, The Moor
Via: Church Corner, Falmouth Sea Front
Service Number: 366
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 06-APR-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday every 20 minutes. - 09 FEB 2015: PH1093399/11 - OFFICE & TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD T/A OTS MINIBUS & COACH HIRE, 50 FORE STREET, CONSTANTINE, FALMOUTH, TR11 5AB
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Falmouth Moor
Finish Point: Falmouth Moor
Via: The Dell, Pendennis Point
Service Number: 367
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 07-APR-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday hourly.
In the News
The big news is the withdrawal of Western Greyhound 510. As * above, Stagecoach have indeed replaced a main part of the route with their new 6 6A services, but this does not cover all sections of the route:A NEW bus route announced last week will solve Bude and Launceston's bus service problems, it has been claimed – but concerns remain over connections for Camelford residents The new services will replace the X9 and X10 as well as the 510, and begin on February 22. New services will link Bude and Launceston to Exeter, both going via Okehampton; some will link Bude and Exeter via Launceston."We haven't heard yet which services will replace the 510 between Launceston, Camelford and Wadebridge," he said. "I know Cornwall Council is looking at all the options to make sure that residents who don't have access to a car in Tregadillett, Pipers Pool, Hallworthy, Davidstow and other communities along the route aren't left stranded. dam Paynter, Lib Dem Cornwall councillor for Launceston North, said he was very concerned at a cut in the number of buses serving the Tregadillett area: "It's important the village keeps its public transport links into Launceston and farther afield so those who don't have access to a car aren't left isolated."
Read more: http://www.cornishguardian.co.uk/Concerns-Camelford-Launceston-link-despite-new/story-26007001-detail/story.html#ixzz3RqJTh42T Follow us: @cornishguardian on Twitter | cornishguardian on Facebook
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410 - Cornwall County Council has just put up this route and timetable - Travel Cornwall from Launceston to Camelford and Delabole. Has 3 journeys Monday to Friday only. They do not connect at Launceston with the 6A and I haven't looked at the 576 (12), but it looks like a local service between school runs. Camelford to Wadebridge is not covered.
ReplyDeleteCamelford to Bude is covered by the existing Western Greyhound Services From Bude to wadebridge Direct or Indirect via Port Issac
DeleteTo be honest with you I think most people know by now that the 510/599 is going and that Stagecoach are taking it over, considering they have been running journeys in place of Western Greyhound, and down into Launceston.
ReplyDeleteCome Monday there may be a few problems in regards to times and route numbers but hopefully it should all go ok. One thing I don't get is why Stagecoach haven't retained the 11am bus to Exeter which was actually one of the busiest buses throughout the morning for WG.
Also Western Greyhound will have a new website from next Monday, its about time too!
I am sure come Monday morning there will be plenty of people who wont know anything about the changes. There always is no matter how good the company is at telling people. Here in Plymouth both Citybus and First are very good at giving plenty of notice and publicizing timetable changes but there are always lots of people who somehow miss it all. The new web site is much needed but its a shame they couldn't do at least one update to the old one for this big change. Especially for those who wont have a bus anymore
DeleteWGs website seems to be getting there - the Latin text has changed to English. However the new pictures on the home page are amusing - DD at St Ives, 520 to Bude, 572 to Plymouth and 576 to Launceston! Living in the past?
ReplyDeletefbb reports from his local contact that WGs PVR drops by 4 now due to the end of the 510, but the March changes add 8 back in so 4 more vehicles overall. Also a big feature of the new timetables is apparently to run 5 minutes ahead of First. IF you can keep punctuality that may work, if not it is a disaster with the regulars opting for reliability.
A quick survey of passenger numbers at Perranporth on Saturday afternoon had Western Greyhound with 2,1& zero on three services with First slightly better with 2 & 3 on two services.Eight people over 5 journeys is not going to pay the bills of either of them.There may have be more nearer Truro but to be running almost empty on the midpoint to/from Newquay is going to hurt.
DeleteYes, but it's only a short-term move of desperation. First are understood to be hanging on with two more sets of changes, anticipating some retimings by WG and little else.
DeleteMore relevant is whether they've managed to pay all their drivers this last week yet!
Advanced publicity. Remember that regular customers get word of mouth, paper notices and the new service publicity. The 510 driver told me unprompted back in January that the service ended this weekend.
ReplyDeleteThe 410 connects to the Plymouth service at Launceston.
But First have the deeper pockets and can withstand losses. They have been doing so in Devon & Cornwall for years, with the company bailed out by profits from the other First operating companies.
ReplyDeleteWestern Greyhound do not have a parent company and so they need to cover their costs and make a profit.
The business has been chronically mismanaged in the last 4 years, and it requires a lot of time and money to put right this damage and the loss of reputation it has suffered. Basic things like having buses in a single identifiable colour, consistent use of proper destination equipment (lots of evidence of new LEDs now replacing the piece of A4 which has prevailed for so long on acquired stock) or even having sufficient staff to operate and support the current registered mileage should be what is focused on before further expansion.
You then have a solid platform from which to grow, rather than a pile of unsustainable expansion that will only raise expectation and heighten the levels of disappointment when it fails to deliver at the first hurdle.
Fancy numberplates mean nothing when your bus doesn't arrive despite the timetable saying it will.
and it seems first next little attack at greyhound has been registered two services into one It looks like
ReplyDeletePH0004983/510 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Shortlanesend
Finish Point: Tregony
Via: Truro, Probus
Service Number: 86
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 20-APR-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday except public holidays.
Interesting that WG have registered their summer 2015 timetables but not FK. There are a whole load of registrations up on the dvsa website today from a First but someone in the know told me these are just changes in response to WG registering 5 minutes in front of first on the competing routes plus this new route. Doesn't look good for WG if that is the most imago stove thing they can come up with to combat First. First aren't going away as they hoped. will be dry interesting to see what First register for the summer which I hear will be from Whitsun.
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